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Hey, dudes! im back with a new discussion! Kay...listen up.
i was thinking it quite over...About the Whole 'RAPTURE" topic..
truly wondering if god would really speak to us about the downfall of humanity
on December 21, 2012. so that we could easily just plead for our sins and repent after living
a full life of lies and cold madness.
Do you believe the world will really end that day? or will we just continue on with our lives as if the fact this So called fact isn't in the bible.
So i've heard.
Comment, and tell me what you think of the so called, "END"
Also!...If any of you know exactly what page in the bible that states This EXACT sudden date. TELL ME!! lol Thanks dude!..and Dudets ..of course..lol
Speak out what YOU believe.

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Funny. :) When asked what she thought about the Mayan calendar, Sylvia Browne said she thought the Mayans ran out of ink. She's not too worried either LOL. Great to have you here, Mary!

Here's hoping all our writings will be getting reread and puzzled over in another two thousand years! :)

Mary Anne Landers said:
Mayan 1: "Oh crap! I can't continue the calendar."
Mayan 2: "Why?"
Mayan 1: "I ran out of stone to chisel on."
Mayan 2: "Relax! 2000 years is more than enough to look forward to. After that, we can make more calendars."
Mayan 1: "Think we'll last that long?"
Mayan 2: "Sure! And if we don't, what's the worst that can happen?"
Haha! That's so funny. I guess the worst that can happen is that on December 21, 2012 is that THE WORLD WILL FREAK OUT!!

Mary Anne Landers said:
Mayan 1: "Oh crap! I can't continue the calendar."
Mayan 2: "Why?"
Mayan 1: "I ran out of stone to chisel on."
Mayan 2: "Relax! 2000 years is more than enough to look forward to. After that, we can make more calendars."
Mayan 1: "Think we'll last that long?"
Mayan 2: "Sure! And if we don't, what's the worst that can happen?"
Werent they all wearing adidas too? I think it happened in Waco Tx or that could have been the Davidians you know they had tanks circling the house and then I dont know how many children women and the main dude died. He had taken the wives away from his followers and I think some of their daughters.

Kay Elizabeth said:
I guess I should brush up on my Bible. :) Thanks for the explanation, Vivi. It's been a long time. I don't want to take Betty's thread offtopic but people like that missionary you mentioned scare me. The ones that will be attending his mission really will need God's help to get past that kind of nonsensical teaching.

The problem I have with apocalyptic predictions is that people die whether they come true or not. There was a cult, and the name escapes me right now, but the leader predicted the world was going to end. His followers, according to him, were the chosen ones that would escape and start a new civilization. They were to be taken into space in a vehicle that was hiding behind Halley's Comet that at the time was circling the earth. This was what he taught them and they believed it completely, such was their faith in this man.

The way they got on board was to commit suicide. And they did. There were about thirty of them if I remember right and I think it was in Texas. They took pills, drank vodka, and put plastic bags over their heads. It was orderly and done in shifts. The last two even took out the trash before killing themselves. ( I apologize for my vagueness on the name and date. I was reminded of this story because I'm reading The Power of Premonitions by Larry Dossey, M.D. and he talked about it. I'll look it up again in his book.)

The point is these people were sucked into believing absolutely that it would happen and killed themselves because of a lunatic's theory . I can see history repeating itself in 2012. There will be suicides of cult followers. Ordinary people, especially those under mental strain, will also commit suicide out of fear because they don't want to suffer a terrible death. Those very same people don't get to wake up the next day and see it wasn't true. Their families are left living their life without that person. They can't be ribbed by their friends over thinking it would.

And that is what really scares me about all this 2012 talk: not that it will happen, but the repercussions for some poor vulnerable souls that are convinced this is an absolute certainty, not a theory.

Viviana Arteaga said:
Kay, the Rapture is when God starts calling the people to heaven and the horse men are begining to be let loose and cause the famines war and suffering for the remanding sinners and then the cycle contiues more people are called or die Im not sure and another horse man is released, thats also when the antichrist is in control and some other stuff and so on and so forth.
Oh talkin about the antichrist when I used to be a waitress I took a party of 20 missionaries, this was during the elections, and they were of course talking about the end who could be the antichrist and the main missionary was leading the disscusion and he was like "Obama is the antichrist!"
Like all firm and and serious I felt so awkward because I just gave his drink and I was so hoping he wouldnt bring me into it....but he did he asked me if I agreed with him.
I smiled and said "No I dont believe he is the antichrist."
He gives me that look of pity with a smile that totally p###ed me off.
And he said, "You will know the truth one day and Jesus will forgive you and Lead you in the right direction."
I got so mad I gave them lousy ass service. They left me the tip I charged them and a pamphlet. GRRRR!!
I just watched 2012 yesterday and I have to say Roland Emmerich makes a damn good movie. I was a huge fan of The Day After Tomorrow when it first came out and so far I've enjoyed all of his movies. He's an amazing Epic Disaster Film maker and I hope to see more of them from him in the future.
I dont' know about that movie. I just think it's sort of anti-christian. I mean, December 21, 2012 is all about the mayan calender ending. Mayans didn't know anything about God. At least, not the God I believe in.

Andrew Kunz said:
I just watched 2012 yesterday and I have to say Roland Emmerich makes a damn good movie. I was a huge fan of The Day After Tomorrow when it first came out and so far I've enjoyed all of his movies. He's an amazing Epic Disaster Film maker and I hope to see more of them from him in the future.
Ummm.... I would reply this but it would be too mean and probably cause an argument. So Im not gonna say anything.

Callie Leah said:
I dont' know about that movie. I just think it's sort of anti-christian. I mean, December 21, 2012 is all about the mayan calender ending. Mayans didn't know anything about God. At least, not the God I believe in.

Andrew Kunz said:
I just watched 2012 yesterday and I have to say Roland Emmerich makes a damn good movie. I was a huge fan of The Day After Tomorrow when it first came out and so far I've enjoyed all of his movies. He's an amazing Epic Disaster Film maker and I hope to see more of them from him in the future.
Uh, you realize you just did? Haha!

Viviana Arteaga said:
Ummm.... I would reply this but it would be too mean and probably cause an argument. So Im not gonna say anything.

Callie Leah said:
I dont' know about that movie. I just think it's sort of anti-christian. I mean, December 21, 2012 is all about the mayan calender ending. Mayans didn't know anything about God. At least, not the God I believe in.

Andrew Kunz said:
I just watched 2012 yesterday and I have to say Roland Emmerich makes a damn good movie. I was a huge fan of The Day After Tomorrow when it first came out and so far I've enjoyed all of his movies. He's an amazing Epic Disaster Film maker and I hope to see more of them from him in the future.
I meant I'm not gonna reply to it how I would like to, because it would cause an argument. And if you didn't approve on the movie then you shouldn't have replied on a forum that pertained to the same thing because then you'd be participating in an "unchristian" conversation.

Callie Leah said:
Uh, you realize you just did? Haha!

Viviana Arteaga said:
Ummm.... I would reply this but it would be too mean and probably cause an argument. So Im not gonna say anything.

Callie Leah said:
I dont' know about that movie. I just think it's sort of anti-christian. I mean, December 21, 2012 is all about the mayan calender ending. Mayans didn't know anything about God. At least, not the God I believe in.

Andrew Kunz said:
I just watched 2012 yesterday and I have to say Roland Emmerich makes a damn good movie. I was a huge fan of The Day After Tomorrow when it first came out and so far I've enjoyed all of his movies. He's an amazing Epic Disaster Film maker and I hope to see more of them from him in the future.
I'm not doing any Christmas shopping that year until Christmas Eve. Just in case. I'd hate to see all those gifts being blasted into oblivion. On the plus side, I'd never get the January credit card statement.

We're not going anywhere. :)
lol

scribbler said:
I'm not doing any Christmas shopping that year until Christmas Eve. Just in case. I'd hate to see all those gifts being blasted into oblivion. On the plus side, I'd never get the January credit card statement.

We're not going anywhere. :)
Yup, I saw that movie a while back.
to tell you guys the truth i started this discussion because of that film.
2012 was good, but i don't like the fact they made a movie based on something that never happened.....Yet..i guess, i dont know.

Andrew Kunz said:
I just watched 2012 yesterday and I have to say Roland Emmerich makes a damn good movie. I was a huge fan of The Day After Tomorrow when it first came out and so far I've enjoyed all of his movies. He's an amazing Epic Disaster Film maker and I hope to see more of them from him in the future.
Heck Betty if we had to make all the movies based on real life that would be boring. We'd never have seen The Three Amigos, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, Spanglish or dare I say it even Twilight or Star Wars epics or ....

On second thoughts I like that idea LOL. ;)

Betty Damil said:
Yup, I saw that movie a while back.
to tell you guys the truth i started this discussion because of that film. 2012 was good, but i don't like the fact they made a movie based on something that never happened.....Yet..i guess, i dont know.

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